I've been dying to chime in amongst the raucous of commentary surrounding Dennis Overbye's NYT article "The Collider, the Particle and a Theory About Fate." The bloggosphere has chewed this one up and spit it out a few times, and today, the article came up in a phone conversation between me and a physicist friend.
Is this for real?
...I’m talking about the notion that the troubled collider is being sabotaged by its own future. A pair of otherwise distinguished physicists have suggested that the hypothesized Higgs boson, which physicists hope to produce with the collider, might be so abhorrent to nature that its creation would ripple backward through time and stop the collider before it could make one....
It sounds like a farce. Then, on the second reading, i realized what the article was really about: the wonky-craziness of theoretical physics and how genius often involves going way out on a limb in your thinking. (At least i hope this was what it was about--the theme was a bit buried. So buried that, in my opinion, the article seemed to give too much credibility to the bizarre, unpopular, and certainly untested theory.)
Fairly, my physicist phone-buddy wanted to go over the facts of Neilsen's theory to judge if this was, in fact, nonsense or whether it was simply a creative interpretation of a plausible concept.
There is conflicting commentary all over the web...
from phsyicscentral
..."The Collider, the Particle, and a Theory About Fate" goes out on a limb—a really long limb—and discusses a fringe idea...
Physicist Sean Carrol, quoted in the article, from Cosmic Variance.
The theory is undeniably crazy — but not crackpot, which is a distinction worth drawing. And an occasional fun essay about speculative science in the Times is not going to send us back to the Dark Ages, or even rank among the top ten thousand dangers along those lines.
Comment below the Times article, MM from Chicago
What I find most most amazing reading these comments is the scientific illiteracy of people who otherwise are probably well educated. Examples: (1) comments that entropy is a fundamental law (its not fundamental), (2) comments that the universe is deterministic in nature (physics stopped believing that over fifty years ago), (3) comments that traveling backwards in time is impossible (not at the quantum level).
People, there has been a revolution in physics. Its came out of quantum mechanics and from the theory of relativity. The old science you learned in high school was not entirely accurate. Pick up a good book on modern physics. You will be awed.
In theoretical physics, it's often difficult to draw the line between what is creative and what is just plain crazy. Everyone has their own definition.
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You're right that it could just be crazy enough to be true and I can't even begin to understand why - but if they want to be taken seriously, they should stop talking about God. They seriously need some good PR.
“Pick up a good book on modern physics. You will be awed.”
Yes, but at the same time (hopefully!) you won't be told a lot of misleading half-truths. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrocausality#As_physics
Although I do not begrudge the publishing of this paper on the internet in a non-peer-reviewed medium, I do not think it is appropriate for the popular press.
The paper is bizarre to the highest degree, and introduces plenty of philosophical problems for future scientists if the proposed behaviour was true. At one point it suggests that nature engineered the collapse of the soviet union to prevent congress funding the superconducting collider. It is not representative of physicists or even modern physics and is closer to paranoid reasoning.
The popular press would do better reviewing established scientific theory, presenting only the new and bizarre makes the public blind to the differences of confidence a theory should hold.
As a science journalist, it makes a difference not only how you cover something but simply what you decide to cover. Presented as is, this article stands as a review of this bizarre theory and not an anecdote about the edges of theoretical physics, as i think it may have been intended.
You have to be careful with fringe science....
I do wonder--does anyone else have any strong thoughts about what science is appropriate to cover in popular press and what is not?